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YeshuaRedeemed

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/health/kavanaugh-abortion-inducing-contraceptives.html?fbclid=IwAR1a4V3T5j9WJ86OiVZIOWEwOLv7ViZzMzrMGXCPA0GH1Wlo6LZlU1TLAD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVuGvC47wMY&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vozr9vHeMo&t=32s

John_C_87

When using birth control does it official stop life? The medical statistics on birth control of any kind such as 99.9% effective is saying yes we know this is pregnancy abortion and have given it a rating. The precedent of the type of abortion is in line with those type abortions all woman perform as a united State. So. when asked under oath a person with understanding of basic  principles would answer yes, birth control is pregnancy abortion. 

The whole truth is that it is a doctor who may perform a pregnancy abortion as a form of accusation made against the unwed mother by lack of medical records from the father of the child.

Plaffelvohfen

@YeshuaRedeemed

Some birth control methods are aimed at "preventing" pregnancy (condoms, IUD, some surgery like vasectomy and tubal ligation) and some other methods are aimed at ending a pregnancy (manual or chemically induced abortion)...

The important thing to understand is that in itself, abortion IS a birth control method, so when you say that "birth control" doesn't cause abortion, it's a categorical error, it's like saying swimming doesn't cause butterfly stroke or front crawl... 

LogicVault

@John_C_87 technically, abortion is killing the kid after it's forming. Prevention of pregnancy in the first place doesn't fit the definition.

YeshuaRedeemed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVuGvC47wMY&t=3s

YeshuaRedeemed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vozr9vHeMo&t=32s

TKDB

The best type of birth control?

Not engaging in a situation, requiring any type of birth control?

YeshuaRedeemed

@TKDB I have the right to choose what to do with my body, and you're too late. I had my tubes removed for permanent birth control, and, I feel great! Consenting women age 20 and over, should be allowed to have their tubes removed for birth control. Don't make me post my birth control song, ha ha! Why aren't you whining about Viagra, and vasectomies? Do you really seek to control women that much?

TKDB

@YeshuaRedeemed

I understand, your points of view, I'm not taking anything away from your argument.

I'm pro unborn babies rights.

And I'm pro fathers rights also.

And I'm pro mother rights as well.

And I'm pro adoption, in the very light of the abortion conversation. 

John_C_87

@LogicVault ;

Technically, abortion is making a claim to officially stop any process, event, and test that has been documented as starting. The claim life starts at fertilization is not the whole truth, truth is backed by evidence which can be entered into a court of law, as it is proven as truth. describes a united state when life begins in all woman.

start  to begin or set out, as on a journey or activity.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/start

What YeshuaRedeemed does not know about Pregnancy abortion. When a doctor performed a pregnancy abortion it is a criminal admission and accusation of murder. The doctor unlike the mother does not know the medical history of the father, and it is not common knowledge like with a registered marriage and blood test.

A doctor performs a female specific amputation not pregnancy abortion as this is a translation made by both united state in constitution and Medical Hippocratic oath.

Plaffelvohfen

LogicVault said:

@John_C_87 technically, abortion is killing the kid after it's forming. Prevention of pregnancy in the first place doesn't fit the definition.

Well, I would argue that technically, the purpose of an abortion is to remove the fetus from the uterus, death is still a necessary consequence of abortion at this moment in time, but it's not the intention...

John_C_87

@Plaffelvohfen ;

Technically. abortion is to officially stop of something that is officially documented as having started, the detail of the stop is never spoken by many, pregnancy is the detail often provably removed from truth. Giving the basic principle alibi for reason of any public debate, when does life starts? The united state of life’s start occurs between all woman upon the creation of egg, life starts with the creation of the egg as united state between all woman. Scientist, Mother, Doctor, Housewife, Young woman all share this whole truth together as equal and are created equal by this whole truth. death is still a necessary consequence of abortion. By a united state in basic principle death is a necessary consequence of female menstruation. it is intentional with all woman. (whole truth) a complete statement that can be substantiated to be true by others, a truth and whole truth are not the same detail describing fact before an order of Constitutional law. 

Female specific amputation is not pregnancy abortion, woman do not have a united state constitutional right to insist to have woman self-incriminate themselves under law, it was a liberty. Birth control is abortion as it is the truth as a pregnancy termination. The legality of the truth is not based on the idea a couple may stop the process of pregnancy to test the value of their independent union with a nation.

AlofRI

I'm pro-saving the mothers life. I'm pro-not bringing another child into a poverty situation. I'm pro-not bringing a deformed child into a life in a wheel chair. I'm pro-not saving a fetus for a life of misery … just because they smile once in a while doesn't mean they are "enjoying life". I'm pro-women's rights and I don't think a bunch of white males should be deciding what a white, black, yellow, red female has a right to do … or not. 

Oh, and I'm pro-happy, healthy child with a chance at life. Decisions … decisions … decisions...…………. (Should be up to the decider).

John_C_87

AlofRI said:

I'm pro-saving the mothers life. I'm pro-not bringing another child into a poverty situation. I'm pro-not bringing a deformed child into a life in a wheel chair. I'm pro-not saving a fetus for a life of misery … just because they smile once in a while doesn't mean they are "enjoying life". I'm pro-women's rights and I don't think a bunch of white males should be deciding what a white, black, yellow, red female has a right to do … or not. 

Oh, and I'm pro-happy, healthy child with a chance at life. Decisions … decisions … decisions...…………. (Should be up to the decider).

Are woman’s rights Constitutional by united state?