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Should America go by the popular Vote or the electoral vote? in News
No democratic voting system works, in the UK it's a first past the post method which means the winning party could get 40%, and the others could be 30% and 30%. So although the majority of voters did NOT vote for the winning party they still become the leaders. Doesn't make any sense.
Schnuupi In the USA current system you only need 25% of the votes and your opponent can have 75% and you could still win. Wait technically the representatives can vote against the interest of the people in their state so even less is required.
From the two choses, I would choose the popular vote, but not first past the post.
I could either have the future pass me or l could create it.
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
@K0B1 But they can go against the will of the people. That is not a democracy.
I could either have the future pass me or l could create it.
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
I could either have the future pass me or l could create it.
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
...and the electoral college is the method that has been chosen to represent our democracy. Our elections were NEVER meant to be determined by strict popular vote
I could either have the future pass me or l could create it.
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
No, it was formed to give less populated states a voice in presidential elections that wouldn't be completely drowned out by higher populated states.
Contrary to modern perceptions, the founding generation did not intend
to create a direct democracy. To the contrary, the Founders deliberately
created a republic -- or, arguably, a republican democracy -- that
would incorporate a spirit of compromise and deliberation into
decision-making. Such a form of government, the Founders believed, would
allow them to achieve two potentially conflicting objectives: avoiding
the "tyranny of the majority" inherent in pure democratic systems, while
allowing the "sense of the people" to be reflected in the new American
government.27
Moreover, a republican government, organized on federalist principles,
would allow the delegates to achieve the most difficult of their tasks:
enabling large and small sovereign states to live peacefully alongside
each other.
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melef In my debate "Is the US governments presidential voting system bad?" I list many problems with the Electoral voting system.
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“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
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But they can go against the will of the people. That is not a democracy.
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I have explained this to you before. A republic is a democracy. It is not a direct democracy. It is a representative democracy.
Republic- a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
Democracy- a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
Representative Democracy- Representative democracy (also indirect democracy, a representative republic or psephocracy) is a type of democracy founded on the principle of elected officials representing a group of people, as opposed to direct democracy.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
http://dev1.debateisland.com/discussion/comment/13690#Comment_13690
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It was formed because of low interconnectivity. It was very hard and long to travel. It has failed many times in representing the people. 22% of the population can elect the president.
http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/07/why-the-founders-created-the-electoral-college/
http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
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https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/the-electoral-college-enlightened-democracy
http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/07/why-the-founders-created-the-electoral-college/
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