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One hundred percent birth control exists, change my mind.
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By YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
I am not allowed to show graphic things on here, so let me introduce you to the bilateral salpingectomy. That is a birth control surgery where a CONSENTING woman 18 years old or older has her fallopian tubes removed for birth control or other reasons. This methods of birth control only fails if the woman has sex without birth control before the surgery, or does in vitro fertilization afterwards. Just to be clear, this surgery is only for consenting women age 18 or over. I no longer support forced sterilization, for the record.
K_Michael
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • K_MichaelK_Michael 67 Pts
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    Abstinence isn't technically 100% effective. Rape.
    I don't know the details of the surgery @YeshuaBought was talking about, but it seems to me that if done correctly, it would work. I would like @Ampersand to give us a link to this supposed medical report.
    @Applesauce As for the Bible, Mary likely could have chosen to reject having the Son of God if she had said so. We don't really know. Besides, we know that he won't be doing it again. the whole "Only-Begotten" thing, yaknow?
    "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." 
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  • CYDdhartaCYDdharta Premium Member 1086 Pts
    Abstinence is also 100% effective.
    Applesauce
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  • AmpersandAmpersand 648 Pts
    edited January 2019
    https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(04)02993-0/fulltext

    A medical text reporting on a case of a woman getting pregnant after bilateral salpingectomy. Ergo it's not 100% effective.

    Although it's outside the topic of the debate, I'd also consider the implicit rationale fo bringing it up a bit pointless. Even if it were 100% effective, people wouldn't want to go through with it in any meaningful number.
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  • YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
    @Ampersand Blocked.
    Zombieguy1987AmpersandApplesauce
    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • AlecAlec 69 Pts
    YeshuaBought 

    Why did you block Ampersand?
    AmericanFurryBoyZombieguy1987
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  • YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
    @Alec Because he did not read what I wrote. This debate is about birth control, stay on topic or leave. 
    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
    I am sorry for being mean. I will unblock everyone. I am really sick, and it makes me mad. This is my problem: I have hypothyroidism, and I need to start taking something for it. I am sorry.
    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • ApplesauceApplesauce 239 Pts
    CYDdharta said:
    Abstinence is also 100% effective.
    not according to the bible :)
    CYDdhartaK_Michael
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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  • MayCaesarMayCaesar 1699 Pts
    I might be thick, but I have never understood why anyone would ever willingly sterilize themselves. Even if you do not want to ever give birth, why remove the option? Maybe you will change your mind eventually. And if not, then it is not too hard to avoid getting pregnant without any tools/procedures whatsoever, with just a bit of common sense. By not sterilizing yourself, you do not lose anything. By sterilizing, you do, while gaining nothing.

    I mean, I am as child free a person as one can get. I do not know if I will ever have a romantic relationship with anyone, as my brain is not wired in a way to make it work, or even desirable in the first place.  And even so, why would I permanently remove the possibility to help someone conceive a child? You never know what will happen in the future. If I do not want to impregnate anyone, I will not, and I do not need any operations for that.

    Maybe I am missing something?
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  • YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
    CYDdharta said:
    Abstinence is also 100% effective.
    I have the right to choose what to do with my body, an I already had my tubes removed. Not your body? Not your right. Deal with it.
    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • YeshuaRedeemedYeshuaRedeemed 389 Pts
    @MayCaesar Fair enough. It is your body, but can you understand why some people don't want children? 
    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.








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  • AmpersandAmpersand 648 Pts
    @K_Michael

    At the very top of my previous post where I mentioned it.
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  • K_MichaelK_Michael 67 Pts
    @Ampersand
    whoops, didn't see that.  :sweat_smile:
    "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." 
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  • K_MichaelK_Michael 67 Pts
    I didn't understand most of it, but from what I can tell, there was only tissue growth, without any actual baby or embryo.
    "We're all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." 
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  • ApplesauceApplesauce 239 Pts
    @K_Michael

    it was a joke <span>:smile:</span>
    didn't he mean abstinence in the strictest sense as in no sex, which would included forced and illegal?
    "I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
    The Animals
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  • AmericanFurryBoyAmericanFurryBoy 365 Pts
    Ever heard of a condom?
    Sovereignty for Kekistan
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  • Zombieguy1987Zombieguy1987 441 Pts
    Alec said:
    YeshuaBought 

    Why did you block Ampersand?

    Oh look. Instead of acutally challenging his argument, you do the SJW thing and block him...



    AmericanFurryBoy
    https://www.google.com/search?q=victims+of+religion&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=x&ved=0ahukewihu9jugorfahwkmeakhbtib00q_auidigb&biw=1920&bih=963&safe=active

    Blues and Raptors handed two very toxic teams embarrassing losses, 95% of the sports world is rejoicing in the news

    Repealing the Second Amendment is the first step to Totalitarianism, and it needs to be prevented to protect our freedom 

    http://www.atheistrepublic.com/
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