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Proposals on how to tackle the issue of gun related crime
in United States
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The unexamined thought is not worth thinking.
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The unexamined thought is not worth thinking.
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In whole truth the judicial courts use Capital punishment not death sentence. A criminal conducts a death sentence as part of a crime or the crime itself named murder. There is a moral obligation to point whole truth out when having this talk. As it is not always understood clearly, even more so when moving from court rooms to hall and front sept remarks, to street.
Being that their civil rights were taken from them, because of being victimized by their offenders?
Property and ownership are a civil liberty, Life liberty and Happiness are a few self-evident truths that can go on to be described as Civil Right and Judicial Right as a United State.
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My point was simply that the only way to stop gun violence in action is with guns. The city of Los Angeles learned the hard way when 2 bank robbers outgunned their entire police force. The issues are separate. We need more protection until we have more individual solutions. @ZeusAres42
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Laws can make you feel safer. Banning guns can make you feel safer. The death penalty can make you feel safer. None of these things make a bit of difference though to the mentally ill, gang members or criminal loose cannons. It is a bold faced lie if you are telling American people that they will be safer if laws, are harsher, penalties are harsher and guns are banned from the people who need them the most. @TKDB
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Then what is your suggestion then?
Some of the liberals, and their pandering, to the anti death penalty crowd?
The illegal gun dealer, apparently panders to the criminals, and the offenders, I'm guessing to profit, from their illegal gun sales to their criminal, and offender client's?
And the NRA apparently seems to pander to the pro Second Amendment gun owner crowd?
393 million guns, millions of illegal guns, 325 million citizens, wow, look at the above leveraging that the public as a whole gets to live and deal with?
All because of the politics that's swirling around the Second Amendment in the United States?
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My suggestion is that we focus on the roots of the problems. I am not going to pretend that I am educated in the field of mental illness nor am I an expert in preventing inner city gang violence, but there are plenty of people who are. The sad truth is that is much more complicated than laws or gun bans. It is dangerous and short sighted to believe that the real issue is guns or the second amendment. The real issue is people and that is something that no one since the world has began, has been able to fix.
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"My suggestion is that we focus on the roots of the problems."
Here are the root of the problems:
Some of the liberals, and their pandering, to the anti death penalty crowd?
The illegal gun dealer, apparently panders to the criminals, and the offenders, I'm guessing to profit, from their illegal gun sales to their criminal, and offender client's?
And the NRA apparently seems to pander to the pro Second Amendment gun owner crowd?
393 million guns, millions of illegal guns, 325 million citizens, wow, look at the above leveraging that the public as a whole gets to live and deal with?
All because of the politics that's swirling around the Second Amendment in the United States?
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You made a good point here that supports my opinion. Do the math. Are guns really the problem?
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Yes, guns are the problem.
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"By the Numbers: America's Gun Problem
"NRA Contributions
Some very educational information.
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"America’s unique gun violence problem, explained in 17 maps and charts
In the developed world, these levels of gun violence are a uniquely American problem. Here’s why.
America is an exceptional country when it comes to guns. It’s one of the few countriesin which the right to bear arms is constitutionally protected. But America’s relationship with guns is unique in another crucial way: Among developed nations, the US is far and away the most homicidal — in large part due to the easy access many Americans have to firearms. These maps and charts show what that violence looks like compared with the rest of the world, why it happens, and why it’s such a tough problem to fix."
More educational information.
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@AmericanFurryBoy
It is when the United States Constitution is described as the written documentation which provides this liberty to common defense to both criminal and civil welfare.
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Where is the overall, equality and fairness at?
I had told you TKDB the equality is set on the basic principle of use and application to lethal force in both civil and criminal matters as a united state. The choice a person makes not to own a gun removes them from the necessity of equality by assuming the same burdens as Police, and Public Law Services and United State Armed Services.
This is a truth that should be states as whole truth.  Considerate: 81%  
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Are you a pro gun extremist?
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You're tap dancing.
"By the way the United States does not have the highest number of gun murders statistically."
But the U.S. is the only country with a Second Amendment that's getting abused by both the lawful gun owner, and the illegal gun owner.
Think about that, the Bill of Rights is in a sense, getting abused by the Second Amendment.
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Think about that, the Bill of Rights is in a sense, getting abused by the Second Amendment.
From John_C_87:
"By the way the United States does not have the highest number of gun murders statistically."
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@TKDB
I believe guns are obsolete. So to be honest it may make me sound like an gun extremist. Much in the way I know it sounds like discrimination for saying it is a crime to vote a woman as President of the United States. The question is do you want me to lie and agree with you? or tell the truth even though the whole truth is no popular or well known?
By the way TKDB it is the United States Consitution which is being abused. Also the idea of gun murders is a misrepratation to whole truth a bomb from a plain is a Fire-Arm, artilery fire as well. War is murder and is the foundation to which the United States Copnsiotutional common defense was established. As in the begining of the American War of independence a solder fuaght during the day and work a field, or job at night or after battle.
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"I believe guns are obsolete."
You, do huh?
There are 383 million guns in the United States, in comparison to the 325 million U.S. citizens.
I think that the United States is fruitfully abundant, with 393 guns within its borders wouldn't you?
The gun manufacturers across the country, design, create, and make guns yearly, and even print literature to advertise their upcoming gun models, in various gun shops across the country as well.
I'm unsure of how the word "obsolete," works with the given reality, where the U.S., that has 393 million guns that are in existence?
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You do not know a whole truth about information that would more than likely be necessary to have that understanding would be my guess. I do enjoy recreational shooting, non competitive, popularity and trending have very little to do with whole truth on some matters of common defense to the general welfare. I'm not here to sell you on the idea of truth or whole truth simply citing information does not insure a whole truth. Guns have gone much of the way like the sword. What there still is however is honor and dishonor this constitutional truth. Meaning basic principle and legal precedent has not changed.
To help you understand my line of though on the matter of fire-arm. As a state of the union a person obtains a right to common defense to the general welfare which includes a gun. Making a gun legal or illegal is not directly setting boundary of the United States Constitutional Right.
Again, in basic principle the legal precedent is that a person who does not own a fire-arm is equal in blame in mass shooting by united state as the person who does not own a firearm and does not conduct the crime. Is this civil liability in Court addressed equally by lawsuit settlements statistically?
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What does your below statement have to do with this individual forum?
"Much in the way I know it sounds like discrimination for saying it is a crime to vote a woman as President of the United States. The question is do you want me to lie and agree with you? or tell the truth even though the whole truth is no popular or well known?"
Where is your legitimate evidence to support your individual statements?
(Facts, sound bites, quotations from real life sources, that can cooberate your own word choices?)
"By the way TKDB it is the United States Consitution which is being abused."
"Also the idea of gun murders is a misrepratation"
"to whole truth a bomb from a plain is a Fire-Arm, artilery fire as well."
"War is murder and is the foundation to which the United States Copnsiotutional common defense was established."
"As in the begining of the American War of independence a solder fuaght during the day and work a field, or job at night or after battle."
Can CNN, MSNBC, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, OAN, or even YouTube, provide some legitimate evidence, to cooberate, and support your above, individual claims?
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Are you maybe, trying to educate the public in general, with your apparent, "on truth, or a whole truth philosophy?"
(What books, did you read, to help you rationalize, the below points of you, that you came up with?)
"You do not know a whole truth about information that would more than likely be necessary to have that understanding would be my guess. I do enjoy recreational shooting, non competitive, popularity and trending have very little to do with whole truth on some matters of common defense to the general welfare. I'm not here to sell you on the idea of truth or whole truth simply citing information does not insure a whole truth. Guns have gone much of the way like the sword. What there still is however is honor and dishonor this constitutional truth. Meaning basic principle and legal precedent has not changed.
To help you understand my line of though on the matter of fire-arm. As a state of the union a person obtains a right to common defense to the general welfare which includes a gun. Making a gun legal or illegal is not directly setting boundary of the United States Constitutional Right.
Again, in basic principle the legal precedent is that a person who does not own a fire-arm is equal in blame in mass shooting by united state as the person who does not own a firearm and does not conduct the crime. Is this civil liability in Court addressed equally by lawsuit settlements statistically?"
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In truth the number of people interview like you about their understanding played a more significant role in identify lies and truth. Books, dictionary, papers, reports, statistics, records read and studied are a truth as a basic principle. The idea is the construction of whole truth which is picked up by even the most basic legal literature and experiences most people all share addressed as state, or understanding might be a better word.
A traffic ticket and a major felony crime both are expected to be result of whole truth not just a truth. The basic principle of the atomic clock is that the Atomic bomb made guns obsolete. The idea the at WWII stopped WWIII. The basic principle of the atomic clock is that the Atomic bomb made guns obsolete, the understanding of disease and its erratic behavior in general made the described use of the atomic bomb obsolete.
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I get you now, your individual philosophy is this:
You're using the Internet to educate individuals, with your mindset on how you view realities truth, with this: "On truth, or a whole truth philosophy?"
No, thank you.
Your philosophy, is yours and yours alone.
"Books, dictionary, papers, reports, statistics, records read and studied are a truth as a basic principle. The idea is the construction of whole truth which is picked up by even the most basic legal literature and experiences most people all share addressed as state, or understanding might be a better word."
What are those book titles?
What are the titles, to those papers, or reports, or statistics, or records, that you are talking about?
It's easy to generalize, but some reality behind the supposed materials that you have mentioned would be both educational, and informative, if they could be read in person, per the Title, of each reference source that you have alluded to?
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More of your "truth philosophy," right?
I expressed this to you:
("Books, dictionary, papers, reports, statistics, records read and studied are a truth as a basic principle. The idea is the construction of whole truth which is picked up by even the most basic legal literature and experiences most people all share addressed as state, or understanding might be a better word."
What are those book titles?
What are the titles, to those papers, or reports, or statistics, or records, that you are talking about?
It's easy to generalize, but some reality behind the supposed materials that you have mentioned would be both educational, and informative, if they could be read in person, per the Title, of each reference source that you have alluded to?)
And your response is the below?
"Well what are you looking for precisely why guns are obsolete? Why atomic missiles are obsolete? Why atomic bombs are obsolete? I can direct you better understanding what it is you are looking for. I will also like documents signed detailing information you receive you are assuming a burden of knowledge on which caries certain responsibility of truth. There is a legal value that can be collected in the assembly of data.
Less Dangerous and obsolete are different analogy's."
When any mass shooter, in the past, murdered kids, teenagers, parents, and seniors with their guns, who would have thought, that a pro gun individual, would provide the type of conversation that you have, when it comes to defending your pro gun philosophy, or your truth philosophy?
You know what youre doing, right?
You're giving your pro gun opinion, and pro gun philosophy, and your "truth philosophy," a voice?
But what has become apparent, you seem to be lacking a voice for those slain kids, teenagers, parents, and seniors killed by those mass shooters, who killed them in cold blood, with their guns?
Your truth philosophy, has taught me that.
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The unexamined thought is not worth thinking.
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I don't know of anyone who is a pro gun extremist, but the pro gun owners, I think have to a degree, have explained, their individual pro gun philosophies as they have chosen to by now?
"Respectfully, if you think someone is a pro-gun extremist then it makes absolutely no sense to even try to attempt to reason with them as you cannot reason a person out of a position they never even reasoned themselves into in the first place."
And their individual pro gun philosophies, have been given plenty of voicing via their individual points of views?
And a voice as well towards those U.S. citizens, who don't own guns, or a gun, like the pro gun owners own?
Those are some of the examples, of their educational styles.
A gun is a double edged sword.
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TKDB cannot understand a basic principle I understand guns to be obsolete. It is not some complicated idea requiring ability to grasp how any pro gun extremist would fit into that understanding obsolete interpretation would be on TKDB.
@TKDB
But what has become apparent, you seem to be lacking a voice for those slain kids,
Do you mean the children without access to protection by a basic shield? To put a little perspective here on a real negligence a public building like school has a fire door, and fire walls. Why ? It was a result of fires which burned schools and children thus an action as response took place.
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The unexamined thought is not worth thinking.
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Where self-sacrifice is often torture the debate being made is a child can be placed in danger and defended with lethal force as a long as it is not directly in front of them and takes place far away. Which by principle is reasonable considering the actions talked about. We simply do not always have that liberty by choice and vote, unless a common defense is shared between all people by united state. The state of the union would in this matter would be make everyone own a gun and receive training at a regulated set cost, placing fines and criminal charges against those who refuse, or provide a common defense like ballistic shields and safe rooms in schools. To which without and uncertainty these things will also be abused by some needing governing by legislation.
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that's usually what happens, it devolves into wishful thinking, fantasy and "what ifs". People continue to bark up the wrong tree. Point in case with all the democratic candidates talking about gun bans etc, that is driving sales just like when Obama did it. Why they continue to make the same mistakes rather than learn from the previous ones made I'll never understand. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Crime and criminals is a complicated subject where as the knee jerk response for more laws and bans is not. Though the latter won't fix the core issue. I don't recall the gentleman's name but he was discussing (on tv) the proposed minimum wage increases to $15/hour etc. The gist of what he said was basically it will reduce jobs and or make them more attractive to adults thereby leaving little to no job opportunities to teens and college students. In the poor areas especially this will increase poverty and crime. Which makes a lot of sense if you really think about it. Are the prisons full of middle class people? wealthy? or poor? Though I haven't really looked nor do I have the time currently, but it seems to me a proactive approach to reduce all crimes will also reduce violent crimes and or murders. Generally speaking I don't think non violent criminals should be put in prison with violent criminals as I see a potential to turn the non violent into violent.
I'm not sure how accurate these figures are, but I think the thought process is correct https://archive.attn.com/stories/1382/fixing-americas-mass-incarceration-problem And as such you should be able to see the vast amounts and areas for improvement in the criminal system.
Then you have to ask why something as plain as the nose on your face goes mostly ignored. Private prisons, money obviously. Then I would say political pandering is also in the top 2 reasons.
Reducing the out look of hopelessness with a vision for a brighter future would go a long way in reducing crime imo.
Now add in the factor of the candidates who want to let violent criminals vote, even though they never brought it up before to any real degree and it should be obvious much of this issue is all about building a voter base.
Trump managed to do some (not enough) prison reform and focusing on the economy. It will be interesting to see how those things affect the crime rates in that time period. You see there is great benefit to keeping people poor and down. They will believe the empty promises you make to them and gain their votes. That's been going on for a long, long time. Criminals are the easiest to keep down and they have families many times. The bottom line is this is never or rarely about any real reform or crime reduction but rather about control, people control not gun or crime control. It's really that simple when you boil it all down.
Next consider how lenient, tolerant schools are becoming to disrespect and violence. They are creating the next generation of criminals at the school level now. That is what we should all be worried about.
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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"Do you mean the children without access to protection by a basic shield? To put a little perspective here on a real negligence a public building like school has a fire door, and fire walls. Why ? It was a result of fires which burned schools and children thus an action as response took place."
What is your definition of a basic shield?
Ballistic shielding?
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Think about that, the Bill of Rights is in a sense, getting abused by the Second Amendment.
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First yes, Ballistic Shield Google it. Hard to believe we can get Humvee’s on the road but can get a ballistic shield at schools after kids have been killed. In many cases not much need be done to refit fire doors to pull double duty. This is a pretty clear state of the Union address.
The United States is the only Country that has a United State Constitution. It is America’s United States Constitution. Think about the Bill of Rights in a sense of getting abused. Well what is the united State held in a writing of cost as right? Nothing, it is a declaration by basic principle relating to no civil cost or self-value.
The United State use of Military draft is constitutional held illegal. This does not make the shared burden of lethal force illegal under a military code of conduct. There is a section of right which in truth becomes negated when a person makes choices to remove them self from the common defense of a general welfare for everyone. It is not illegal it is civil negligence if the people who will not share the burden of ownership order others to kill on their behalf. Not only on an international level but on a domestic level as well.
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laws not followed, abused by people etc, we call them criminals.
Going off of what John_C has said.....
a person who is obviously intent in harming/killing people, do you feel you have any moral or civil obligation to defend those people if you can do so without being killed yourself?
Now if the country is under attack by another country, aliens, zombies whatever do you feel you have any moral or civil obligation to defend the country?
lets say a person is going to attack you with a large knife or sword, do you have any moral or civil obligation to defend yourself?
in those scenarios you have the option to pick anything that actually exists as your tool for defense, what would you choose and why?
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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Because there are more guns than people in the United States.
So the United States has a gun problem.
Along with an illegal gun ownership problem.
There are US citizens who have developed a gun addiction problem, and their crimes against their innocent victim's, are a result of their gun addiction abuse.
And again, the U.S. is the only country with a Second Amendment that's getting abused by some of the lawful gun owners, and the illegal gun owner.
Think about that, the Bill of Rights is in a sense, getting abused by the Second Amendment.
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illegal gun ownership is a, and the proper focus on the problem
gun addiction problem? source? stats? proof?
gun crimes still happen in other countries that don't have anything like the 2a thus no 2a abuse yet there are still illegal gun owners and gun crimes, so that premise is absurd.
think about it criminals don't follow laws.
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"# of guns is irrelevant since the vast majority of owners do no commit gun crimes
illegal gun ownership is a, and the proper focus on the problem
gun addiction problem? source? stats?
proof?"
Some Americans are addicted to illegal drugs, they're addicted to tobacco, they're addicted to alcohol, they're addicted to drunk driving, drugged driving, they're addicted to being high, while at their places of work.
The United States, when it comes to illegal drugs, uses them more, than any other country.
There are some gun owners, who have enough guns to arm a half a dozen, to a dozen people, easily.
All of the above is common knowledge.
The research is available online:
https://www-psychologytoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/time-out/201803/americas-gun-addiction?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/time-out/201803/americas-gun-addiction
"America's Gun Addiction
Our nation is addicted to guns, with increasingly deadly consequences."
"Wherever you find addiction, there you find denial. The alcoholic who says, “I can quit any time I want,” and the gambling addict who says, “If I hit this time it’ll all work out,” are in the same boat as those who say, “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” They are all addicts in denial, refusing to see the overwhelming evidence of the damage caused by their behavior.
When allowed to continue unchecked, addictions destroy lives."
"The neuroscience of addiction is the same regardless of the behavior or substance. The brain doesn’t care if it’s porn addiction, shopping addiction, cigarette addiction, video game addiction or whatever you like, including gun addiction. Here’s how it works: Dopamineis the brain’s neurotransmitter that is released when you expect a reward – when you expect pleasure. The brain is flooded with dopamine when a shooter prepares to fire a gun. Firing a gun releases endorphins – the pleasure hormones – the same ones we experience with sex, with taking certain substances, and with other enjoyable activities. Since the pleasure (BANG! and endorphins) follows the anticipation so quickly and reliably, the brain easily learns to connect the psychological loop: guns – dopamine – pleasure/endorphins. Some brains then become preoccupied with seeking more dopamine. More guns.
The desire for more is another defining characteristic of addiction. The addict develops tolerance and requires more to get the same rush. Americans own more guns in absolute and relative terms than any other nation. We own about half the world’s guns although we make up only 5% of the world’s population.
And some of us own a great many guns. Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas concert murderer who committed the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, was found to have an arsenal of 47 deadly weapons. That put him in the 3% of gun owners who own large numbers of guns. This is exactly what addiction theory predicts - some users will seek more guns, bigger guns, with more firepower, in order to achieve the feelings they seek."
"When President Trump visited the hospital where some of the victims of the latest schoolshooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland. Florida were being treated, he paid his respects to the doctors.
A genuine show of respect from the President would be heeding the doctors’ words about gun policy.
Organizations representing nearly half a million physicians and medical students, including family physicians, pediatricians and psychiatrists, called on the President and Congress to do the following:
1. Call gun violence what it is, a national public health epidemic.
2. Establish constitutionally appropriate restrictions on the manufacturing and sale, for civilian use, of large-capacity magazines and firearms with features designed to increase their rapid and extended killing capacity."
https://loadoutroom.com/thearmsguide/firearms-addiction-just-collecting-problem/
"Firearms Addiction, or just a Collecting Problem?
The Arms Guide Guest Writer | 03.04.2017
Do you have a problem with firearms? Or are you a full-on gunaholic? Before you start looking for a Dropkick Murphy’s Drying-Out Academy for gun addiction, you should consider the signs and symptoms of this increasingly common addiction. Adapted from this site’s list of issues with an older but equally common addiction.
It’s hard to be objective when it comes to figuring out whether you or your loved one has a problem with gun collecting. Emotions run high, rationalizations and denials lead to confusion and it can seem hard to draw the line between what’s acceptable and what’s going too far. Although the boundaries are fuzzy, issues with guns are either classed as “gun problem” or “gun dependence.” Problem gun collectors don’t have a full-fledged addiction to guns, but their acquisition may be starting to take its toll on their everyday lives and they are at greatly increased risk for becoming dependent later. So while some of the warning signs of gun dependency are technically signs of problem gun acquisition, there is a lot of overlap, and identifying either one is cause for concern. Here are 10 of the most important things to look out for in yourself or your loved one:
"gun crimes still happen in other countries that don't have anything like the 2a thus no 2a abuse yet there are still illegal gun owners and gun crimes, so that premise is absurd.
think about it criminals don't follow laws."
Kids being murdered in a school by a mass shooters gun violence is absurd.
A parent going home, and then killing their spouse, and then their kids as well, is absurd.
Race on race gun violence is absurd.
Non race on race gun violence is absurd.
"think about it, criminals don't follow law's"
So blame the criminal, but excuse the criminals guns that the criminal used to murder kids, teenagers, parents, and seniors with, right?
Isn't that what youre apparently doing, excusing the gun, but in a sense, throwing some shade at the criminal, for not following a law?
That's absurd.
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firstly ROLF
"Some Americans are addicted to illegal drugs, they're addicted to tobacco, they're addicted to alcohol, they're addicted to drunk driving, drugged driving, they're addicted to being high, while at their places of work."
blah blah blah people can become addicted to anything yep bfd, how many have? and what negative out come, other than to themselves has been the result?
excusing the gun? are you blaming the gun? an inanimate object? do you blame forks for obesity?
A drunk driver who kills someone, blame the alcohol? Alcohol producer/manufacturer? The car manufacturer? The car dealership?
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(Some Americans are addicted to illegal drugs, they're addicted to tobacco, they're addicted to alcohol, they're addicted to drunk driving, drugged driving, they're addicted to being high, while at their places of work.)
"blah blah blah people can become addicted to anything yep bfd, how many have? and what negative out come, other than to themselves has been the result?"
So the above is your counter argument, to tbe below?
Kids being murdered in a school by a mass shooters gun violence is absurd.
A parent going home, and then killing their spouse, and then their kids as well, is absurd.
Race on race gun violence is absurd.
Non race on race gun violence is absurd.
"think about it, criminals don't follow law's"
So blame the criminal, but excuse the criminals guns that the criminal used to murder kids, teenagers, parents, and seniors with, right?
Isn't that what youre apparently doing, excusing the gun, but in a sense, throwing some shade at the criminal, for not following a law?
That's absurd.
"excusing the gun? are you blaming the gun? an inanimate object? do you blame forks for obesity?
A drunk driver who kills someone, blame the alcohol? Alcohol producer/manufacturer? The car manufacturer? The car dealership?"
Here are you counter arguments that are off topic,
"Are you blaming the gun?
An inanimate object?
Do you blame forks for obesity?
A drunk driver who kills someone, blame the alcohol?
Alcohol producer/ manufacturer?
The car manufacturer, dealership?"
All of the above, are off topic, biased pro gun talking points.
Some of you pro gun owner brethren, used your same "Used," talking points, when former POTUS Obama was in office.
And the surprising thing about the above point of view, no lawful gun owners had their guns taken from them, did they?
Given, that at the time that was a speculative, and presumed situation, wasn't it, and the reaction to that self fueled speculation, and presumption that lead to more guns being bought, as a reaction, to self created speculation, right?
And a buyers tsunami of gun purchases, took off during then President Obama's time in office.
No, you're hiding behind the Second Amendment, that gets abused by the criminals, and offenders, who have murdered innocent people in cold blood.
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Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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You don't have to be criminal, to make up your "Applesauce," name, then come to this website, to protest those individuals, who aren't being supportive of your pro gun enthusiast mindset?
So, in a sense, you are hiding behind the Second Amendment, your made up name, and behind your computer as well, to protest, whoever doesn't agree, with your pro gun opinion, right?
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I don't think you understand what negative and positive rights are and how they apply to the U.S. constitution and Bill of Rights.
the 2a is a formal recognition of my right, I don't need to hide behind anything.
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood"
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Because there are more guns than people in the United States.
So the United States has a gun problem.
I am going to agree with you here. Even though there is a gun for every person in the united states of America, they in fact do not share the burden of lethal force equally with all those who have given there very lives to defend them. It is easily understandable why this responsibility is to be taken from other when civil law so eagerly only points out this injustice from the brave and not cowardice in others.
I’m not to blame trained others to kill for me, I cannot be trusted.
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