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No banning of semi automatic weapons.
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That said, I do not think that any type of weapons that is not banned for the general use should be banned for the civilian use. It is simply unreasonable to give the government the upper hand in case of a potential armed unrest (justified by the Constitution, mind you). Not to mention that I generally oppose such harsh measures as outright bans as means to achieve the desirable state of society. It is not the possibility of obtaining a semi-automatic weapon that the government should target - it is the idea of possible real life usage of such a weapon in the first place. Eliminate the culture of violence, and then gun control will not be needed. Do not eliminate it - and then all the bans in the world will not stop the violence from occurring.
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I have never understood the argument about not wanting to rely on the government to protect you in favor of protecting oneself with a weapon. Is government going to protect me in my home and if so how.
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When you eliminate the culture of violence surrounding criminals then let me know
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A simple pistol is not a semi auto for the simple minded
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In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons).These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,21,175 suicides,505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent".
In 2012, there were 8,855 total firearm-related homicides in the US, with 6,371 of those attributed to handguns.In 2012, 64% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicides, and 11,078 firearm-related homicides in the U.S. In 2010, 358 murders were reported involving a rifle while 6,009 were reported involving a handgun another 1,939 were reported with an unspecified type of firearm.
s to 38-1 over the five-year period ending in 2012). That's a heavy price to pay.
The center also dives into the thorny thicket of how often the presence of a gun stops a crime — either violent or against property, such as a burglary — from happening. The gun lobby trots out an annual figure of 2.5 million such instances. But an analysis of five years' worth of stats collected by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics' National Crime Victimization Survey puts the number much, much lower — about 67,740 times a year.
It's also useful, as the Violence Policy Center does, to dig into the relationships among the attackers and those who kill in self-defense. Over the five-year span ending in 2012, more than half — 56% — of the justifiable homicides involved strangers, and in 11% of the cases, the relationship was not reported. The rest were acquaintances (18.7%) such as neighbors and coworkers, and then a mishmash of relatives and personal relationships.
So considering suicides count for over 62% of gun deaths each year. You can start to see the real numbers for what they are. Guns save lives are you saying the 2.3 million lives saved don't matter but the 11 thousand killed by homicidal or unclear intent of a firearm. used . somehow are more important. Look at the real numbers guns stop crimes.
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Yes, it is.
This is a Taurus Revolver chambered in .38 Special, a common and simple pistol that's fairly common...and yes...it's semi-automatic. One trigger pull = one bullet.
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anyway I think it would be more dangerous to create a worse black market for guns.
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You are ignorant of firearms. A "simple pistol" isn't the best weapon to protect yourself. For smaller homes, a shotgun would be the best. Second up, you guessed it, a rifle would be the best. For a man, a pistol may be fine if he is highly trained, same goes for a women that is highly trained, but in the moment of adrenaline, a handgun wouldn't be close to the best since you would be shaking making it harder to aim. Why do you think cops unload their guns in a shooting? It is hard to hit. But with a rifle / shotgun, it is much easier. It is much easier to aim for a kid if they had to shot a gun, for a man/women not highly trained, etc. Also, you are speaking as if everyone lives in an apartment or small home. What if it is a big property? Has a big back yard or is farm land? In which case a rifle would be the best option.
All of this is moot anyways. Why is it that your opinion that "everyone" is fine with a handgun be considered truth? You are asserting what "you think" is the best weapon for protection. Which is far from the truth for "Everyone."
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You're either lying or you haven't spent much time with firearms. As hard as a rifle could be, which is the easiest gun i have shot, a handgun is much harder. I was hitting bulls-eye first try from 30 yards... easy. Try doing that with a handgun. Now, there are many factors that makes one better than the other... but, in most cases a rifle is much better than the latter.
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my replies keep getting lost, last try
slide stocks came first, then bump stocks, they both do the same thing, I was talking about full auto vs semi
There can be no dispute about the ease of rifles and shotguns compared to handguns, it's physics, rifles and shotguns are easier generally speaking.
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Well, yeah... i would agree with automatics. They are hard to fire in any type of gun. And, they are illegal to own for the most part anyways. But, banning things like bump stocks is a waste of time. It's a feel good law passed for the people ignorantly following the gun debate. Bump stocks are easy to make or improvise if someone really wanted to make one to do damage with... However, there is only one way it will be effective and its how the Vegas shooter used it. In all other cases it's useless.
The point is the "gun control" agenda is just that... an agenda pandering for votes. The things that will help out most in decreasing gun violence and school shootings are laws that have nothing to do with gun control. ie. getting rid of gun free zones, armed guards and "willing" teachers, harsher punishment when in possession of an illegal firearm or breaking a gun law, etc.
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