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mickyg

why don't you admit you didn't know the gospels were anonymous and YOU can't find any reference before 160ad@TKDB

TKDB

@mickyg

Let me guess you're anti religious right?

You're not going to get many pro God, Jesus, or Religion answers on the internet.

The Man created God, called the Internet doesn't like Religion, as it was explained to me, a lot of the current Millinials would rather come to this artificial man created Church, instead of going to a real life Church, because the current genre of some of the other humans on the internet, sneer at going to an actual Church? 

So you can have your Internet God all that you wish, and maybe that God can help you with your quest?

I'm done with your mindgame.

mickyg

christianity is the worst evil to infect this planet.

The church Synod of Elvira banned marriages, sexual intercourse and community contacts between Christians and Jews. 3,4

337: Christian Emperor Constantius created a law which made the marriage of a Jewish man to a Christian punishable by death.

 

bullet 339: Converting to Judaism became a criminal offense.

 

bullet 343-381: The Laodicean Synod approved Cannon XXXVIII: "It is not lawful [for Christians] to receive unleavened bread from the Jews, nor to be partakers of their impiety." 5

 

bullet 367 - 376: St. Hilary of Poitiers referred to Jews as a perverse people who God has cursed forever. St. Ephroem refers to synagogues as brothels.

 

bullet 379-395: Emperor Theodosius the Great permitted the destruction of synagogues if it served a religious purpose. Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire at this time.

 

bullet 380: The bishop of Milan was responsible for the burning of a synagogue; he referred to it as "an act pleasing to God."

 

bullet 415: The Bishop of Alexandria, St. Cyril, expelled the Jews from that Egyptian city.

 

bullet 415: St. Augustine wrote "The true image of the Hebrew is Judas Iscariot, who sells the Lord for silver. The Jew can never understand the Scriptures and forever will bear the guilt for the death of Jesus."

 

bullet 418: St. Jerome, who created the Vulgate translation of the Bible wrote of a synagogue: "If you call it a brothel, a den of vice, the Devil's refuge, Satan's fortress, a place to deprave the soul, an abyss of every conceivable disaster or whatever you will, you are still saying less than it deserves."

 

bullet 489 - 519: Christian mobs destroyed the synagogues in Antioch, Daphne (near Antioch) and Ravenna.

 

bullet 528: Emperor Justinian (527-564) passed the Justinian Code. It prohibited Jews from building synagogues, reading the Bible in Hebrew, assemble in public, celebrate Passover before Easter, and testify against Christians in court. 3

 

bullet 535: The "Synod of Claremont decreed that Jews could not hold public office or have authority over Christians." 3

 

bullet 538: The 3rd and 4th Councils of Orleans prohibited Jews from appearing in public during the Easter season. Canon XXX decreed that "From the Thursday before Easter for four days, Jews may not appear in the company of Christians." 5 Marriages between Christians and Jews were prohibited. Christians were prohibited from converting to Judaism. 4

 

bullet 561: The bishop of Uzes expelled Jews from his diocese in France.

bullet 613: Very serious persecution began in Spain. Jews were given the options of either leaving Spain or converting to Christianity. Jewish children over 6 years of age were taken from their parents and given a Christian education

bullet 692: Cannnon II of the Quinisext Council stated: "Let no one in the priestly order nor any layman eat the unleavened bread of the Jews, nor have any familiar intercourse with them, nor summon them in illness, nor receive medicines from them, nor bathe with them; but if anyone shall take in hand to do so, if he is a cleric, let him be deposed, but if a layman, let him be cut off." 5

bullet 694: The 17th Church Council of Toledo, Spain defined Jews as the serfs of the prince. This was based, in part, on the beliefs by Chrysostom, Origen, Jerome, and other Church Fathers that God punished the Jews with perpetual slavery because of their alleged responsibility for the execution of Jesus. 5

bullet 722: Leo III outlawed Judaism. Jews were baptized against their will.

bullet 855: Jews were exiled from Italy.

bullet 1050: The Synod of Narbonne prohibited Christians from living in the homes of Jews.

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@mickyg

"christianity is the worst evil to infect this planet."

(The modern evils, that some humans, have infected the public with, for years now.)

Do you not have any negative words towards those humans who help with abortions?

You don't view abortions as evil? 

A million abortions are done, each year.

Are you OK with babies being aborted by humans? 

Or, what about murder, humans murder innocent people each year.

Are you OK with humans who have murdered other humans? 

You don't view murder as evil?

Or the mass shooters, who have killed kids, teenagers, and adults?

Are you OK with those humans having  murdered those kids, teenagers, and adults?

You don't view those mass shooters as evil? 

Or, maybe you have a beef with Christianity, God, and Jesus specifically, so you'll just continue to ignore the evils that some humans commit against other humans, to blindly enhance your individual beef?

mickyg

1078: "Pope Gregory VII decreed that Jews could not hold office or be superiors to Christians." 6

bullet 1078: The Synod of Gerona forced Jews to pay church taxes.

bullet 1096: The First Crusade was launched in this year. Although the prime goal of the crusades was to liberate Jerusalem from the Muslims, Jews were a second target. As the soldiers passed through Europe on the way to the Holy Land, large numbers of Jews were challenged: "Christ-killers, embrace the Cross or die!" 12,000 Jews in the Rhine Valley alone were killed in the first Crusade. This behavior continued for 8 additional crusades until the 9th in 1272.

bullet 1099: The Crusaders forced all of the Jews of Jerusalem into a central synagogue and set it on fire. Those who tried to escape were forced back into the burning building.

bullet 1121: Jews were exiled from Flanders (now part of present-day Belgium)

bullet 1130: Some Jews in London allegedly killed a sick man. The Jewish people in the city were required to pay 1 million marks as compensation.

bullet 1146: The Second Crusade began. A French Monk, Rudolf, called for the destruction of the Jews.

bullet 1179: Canon 24 of the Third Lateran Council stated: "Jews should be slaves to Christians and at the same time treated kindly due of humanitarian considerations." Canon 26 stated that "the testimony of Christians against Jews is to be preferred in all causes where they use their own witnesses against Christians." 7

bullet 1180: The French King of France, Philip Augustus, arbitrarily seized all Jewish property and expelled the Jews from the country. There was no legal justification for this action. They were allowed to sell all movable possessions, but their land and houses were stolen by the king.

bullet 1189: Jews were persecuted in England. The Crown claimed all Jewish possessions. Most of their houses were burned.

1205: Pope Innocent III wrote to the archbishops of Sens and Paris that "the Jews, by their own guilt, are consigned to perpetual servitude because they crucified the Lord...As slaves rejected by God, in whose death they wickedly conspire, they shall by the effect of this very action, recognize themselves as the slaves of those whom Christ's death set free..."

1215: The Fourth Lateran Council approved canon laws requiring that "Jews and Muslims shall wear a special dress." They also had to wear a badge in the form of a ring. This was to enable them to be easily distinguished from Christians. This practice later spread to other countries.

 

bullet 1227:  The Synod of Narbonne required Jews to wear an oval badge. This requirement was reinstalled during the 1930's by Hitler, who changed the oval badge to a Star of David.

1229: The Spanish inquisition starts. Later, in 1252, Pope Innocent IV authorizes the use of torture by the Inquisitors.

 

bullet 1236: Pope Gregory ordered that church leaders in England, France, Portugal and Spain confiscate Jewish books on the first Saturday of Lent. 1

 

bullet 1259: A "synod of the archdiocese in Mainz ordered Jews to wear yellow badges." 1

 

bullet 1261: Duke Henry III of Brabant, Belgium, stated in his will that "Jews...must be expelled from Brabant and totally annihilated so that not a single one remains, except those who are willing to trade, like all other tradesmen, without money-lending and usury." 2

267: The Synod of Vienna ordered Jews to wear horned hats. Thomas Aquinas said that Jews should live in perpetual servitude.

 

bullet 1290: Jews are exiled from England. About 16,000 left the country.

 

bullet 1298: Jews were persecuted in Austria, Bavaria and Franconia. 140 Jewish communities were destroyed; more than 100,000 Jews were killed over a 6 month period.

 

bullet 1306: 100,000 Jews are exiled from France. They left with only the clothes on their backs, and food for only one day.

 

bullet 1320: 40,000 French shepherds went to Palestine on the Shepherd Crusade. On the way, 140 Jewish communities were destroyed.

1321: In Guienne, France, Jews were accused of having incited criminals to poison wells. 5,000 Jews were burned alive, at the stake.

 

bullet 1338: The councilors of Freiburg banned the performance of anti-Jewish scenes from the town's passion play because of the lethal bloody reactions against Jews which followed the performances. 9

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@mickyg

You have no argument.

Humans kill humans, via murder and abortion, each day.

And I've yet to hear one Nationwide TV news outlet, call out God, Jesus, or Religion in general for God, being solely responsible for murder or abortions?

CNN, MSNBC, NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC, OAN (One America Network) CNBC, HLN, and FOX news network?

When you can find any of the above Nationwide TV news outlets, that might have "Condemned" God, Jesus, or Religion, and called them out for murder, and abortion, and you can "Find" that sound bite, share it, and we can have a fair and equal debate over Religion.

MayCaesar

@TKDB

Why do you keep reframing other people's arguments in the exact same way over and over?

1. Nobody is saying that religion is solely responsible for crimes.
2. Religion being responsible does not mean people are not responsible either and should not be tried in the court.

I am not sure if it is your lack of reading skills, or a very deep intellectual dishonesty, but so far you have hardly responded to any actual argument people make. Instead, you keep attacking the same simplified claims you yourself conjured.

TKDB

@MayCaesar

This is the theme of the forum:

"Why would an all evil diety exist, but not Jesus Christ, the all good God of the Bible?"

Here's one of mickyg's anti religious comments:

"christianity is the worst evil to infect this planet."

This is the concluding statement from you:

"I am not sure if it is your lack of reading skills, or a very deep intellectual dishonesty, but so far you have hardly responded to any actual argument people make. Instead, you keep attacking the same simplified claims you yourself conjured."

I'm debating from both sides of the debate conversation, IE, from the Religion side, and from humanities side.

I haven't conjured up anything, just telling the truth.

The fellow (mickyg) knows how to engage in a one sided conversation, to self platform his individual, anti religious philosophy, and his above response, speaks directly to that blurred perception that does not speak to a transparent, equal, or a fair debate.

And judging Religion in the face of humans murdering humans, and humans engaging in abortions, is a, tragically sad double standard.

I would call it a hypocrisy of one's own common sense?

MayCaesar

@TKDB

Something else allegedly also being bad (although I fail to see what is bad about abortions, but whatever) is not an argument against the discussed entity being bad. Your response is an illustration of classical whataboutism:

"You have Gulags in Soviet Union. What say you to that?"
"Oh, but you discriminate against Blacks!"

This does not address the point your opponent has raised in any way.

mickyg

PRETEND JESUS said you don't have to wash your hands before eating...ever...this cause untold suffering because of the disease associated with poor hygiene

DO YOU WASH BEFORE EATING SHITHANDS?????
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TKDB

@mickyg

Are you cursing on the internet with this kind of language?

"DO YOU WASH BEFORE EATING SHITHANDS?????,

ethang5

@mickyg

>Once again.WHERE does PAUL say he persecuted christians.

In several of his epistles. Read them.

>It doesn't.

Sure it does. You are just ignorant.

>As you know the gospels and acts are anonymous and so are not eyewitness accounts.

I know no such stupidity. Neither Acts or the gospels are anonymous. You are simply ignorant.

>Paul in galations says he persecuted the church of god.
Does not call them church of christ or christians.

Maybe Paul was talking about Krishna? How dumb are you?

>No one knows what this church of god believed.

Lol. OK stipud.

>Why should anything in vesuvius depict jesus?

Vesuvius was not a city genius.

>Vesuvius erupted in 70ad.Were there no christians in Italy by 70ad?

Why should Christians record it? Did you record anything about the last solar eclipse? Why not? Again, how dumb are you?

>Well stupid.DO you think everyone in vesuvius missed the sun going out for three hours?

Why would Christians record that? And how do you know about it if it wasn't recorded?

>Documented in romam history?ANOTHER LIE.Show proof stupid.

Not to a willfully ignorant person. The history of Rome is free on the net. Your ignorance is your problem.

>A clue ..TACITUS is fake.
BUT USE HIM.I DARE YOU.

I've told you, your taunts are silly. Your ignorance is clear. You don't even know general Roman and Jewish history, much less Christian history.

You stupidly think yelling your belief is all it takes to establish a fact.

The NT is probably the most checked document in history. The veracity of a document depends n it's content, not on it's author.

You focus on the author because you cannot address any of the contents. A giant ad-hom. Your moron argument is "Since we don't know who said 2+2=4, we can't be sure if it's correct."

An education would help you.